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I'm interested in getting to the factory sub to wire in a Line Output Converter to send to a bass amp. Trouble is, I don't really understand the clips holding the upper trunk lining that hides that speaker. I pulled the rubber trunk seal to expose some lip hooks, but then the next row of clips don't just pop out. first one broke, I backed off at that point since I don't have all the parts for the rewire yet anyway, I was just familiarizing myself with the layout.


I'm guessing a narrow needle nose to compress the clip going into the metal is the way to go, but I would have figured this to be much simpler detach than that. Any advice is welcome!
 

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i would recommend tapping into the wire at the amp location itself...on the lower right side of the trunk. much less removal process. good luck!
 

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I'm assuming we're talking about piece "4" in the attached picture? Looks like it has clips on the bottom, and plastic screws on the top. Those plastic screws on the outside have to be turned to release them. The middle screw looks like one of those that cab popped out.

Hard to tell from the pic though.
 

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I yanked it and I broke all of them. I dynamated the whole piece
 

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I'm assuming we're talking about piece "4" in the attached picture? Looks like it has clips on the bottom, and plastic screws on the top. Those plastic screws on the outside have to be turned to release them. The middle screw looks like one of those that cab popped out.

Hard to tell from the pic though.


That picture shows everything but the panel I'm looking to remove. It's the one underneath the back window essentially...
 

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i would recommend tapping into the wire at the amp location itself...on the lower right side of the trunk. much less removal process. good luck!


Right, as in passenger side? I saw a thread here earlier talking about pink being the power on wire at that amp, what colors for one of the sub speaker outputs? I don't want to tap a door, I figure because of stereophonics it's best to tap an already mono output so I don't miss any of the signals...
 

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That picture shows everything but the panel I'm looking to remove. It's the one underneath the back window essentially...
According to Kiatechinfo, you'll have to remove the rear seats and the trunk trim to get to the package tray trim (see picture). There are some screws/bolts inside the trunk and behind the rear seats.

The subwoofer comes out on it's own though - not sure what you are trying to accomplish by taking it all apart.

Best to get on Kiatechinfo and take a look, good luck!
 

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Right, as in passenger side? I saw a thread here earlier talking about pink being the power on wire at that amp, what colors for one of the sub speaker outputs? I don't want to tap a door, I figure because of stereophonics it's best to tap an already mono output so I don't miss any of the signals...
Passenger side. See attached wiring diagram for the wire colors. Looks like pink/brown or Orange is ACC (Amp is fed two power lines). You can see the other wire colors for the various speakers. Color code is next to the wire (O=Orange, P = Pink, R=Red, etc)

Good luck!
 

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**** man, that's some service! Thanks for the diagram! No need to get to sub at this point, i'll tap the amp.
 

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**** man, that's some service! Thanks for the diagram! No need to get to sub at this point, i'll tap the amp.
Kiatech info - that website is the sh**! If you haven't used it, you gotta learn it, can tell you anything about the car.
 

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Just noticed there are multiple orange wires on the amp. The numbers next to the Amp diagram denote the pinout location on the harness, and the F02-A, B, and C are different harness connectors (looks like there are three). The attached pics of the harness and pinouts should help you too. Best of luck!
 

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****, so which one is the Sub output wire? Looks like there are outputs and inputs...for my LOC I thing it's best to get a sub output...
 

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I was leaning towards this one being outputs, but since there are two of the, I'm really unsure. I got a peak at the woofer itself, it has two pairs of wires going into it but none of the colors match what I'm seeing at 12-25 and 13-26. Is this a dual voice coil sub? then does it matter which one I tap into?

 

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I found the harness layout of the sub (top left corned of the attached pic). It correlates to the amp diagram though - 4 wires, colors match. If they don't match what you're seeing, I don't know what to tell you.
 

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Wire colors at the amp makes sense with the drawings, at least all the colors match what it says. What confuses me is that there are 4 wires (2 pairs) for sub, but only one sub, so I peeked at the speaker itself, can see through the breather holes, and could see two sets of wires at the speaker, but the didn't match colors at the amp. Is there a schematic of the sub speaker itself, maybe it shows a connector in-between that brings those wires over from the side.


I didn't pay particular close attention to the surround speakers in the back, but I could see their wires, and I have a recollection that they were the same color as the wires at the sub speaker. It was late, so I gave in to fatigue and figured it wasn't worth hosing something.


The good news is, my main power and amp control wires all made it to the back from battery and dash respectively, and Ground wire is attached/tested, along with the pink/black wire for the amp power on is tapped and tested. all I need to finalize this is the signal output!


I picked up a 4 gauge monster cable set from Amazon, wow was that sucka thick...I contemplated sending it back, but got too excited about making forward progress so I went with it. Getting it through the drivers side grommet was a synch, well, compared to firewall penetrations in the past anyway...
 

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That connector pictured in my last post (top left corner) is the connecter at the sub. The colors are identical to the wire diagram. Noticed that the picture doesn't show right on my computer (mostly black for some reason). If you click the picture again, it shows right in it's own window.

I don't know for sure why it has 4 wires going to it. My only wild guess is that I've seen the wiring diagrams from the head unit, and the navigation voice seems to have it's own dedicated output separate from the stereo, maybe it's related :confused:

Oh and I may ask for help if I can't figure out how to get through the firewall, have my own project that I'm wiring up
 

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Well it's all done. one word...Dayumn the stereo sounds good now! turned the crossover for the sub down to about 180 hz instead of 200 where it was on the old car. A lot more clean then before, and the stock stereo get's all the upper lows just fine. Alex Skolnick Trio never sounded so good!


I went with the LOC on the rear door speaker wires as one of the previous threads discussed, troubleshooting which stock sub wires to tap was too much to hassle, so I got right/left into the LOC (forgot it took stereo signals) and everything went smooth as pudding. All total maybe a 4 or 5 hour job. But I'm no pro, I just do this in movies.


Wanted to thank you again for all the diagrams and input, without that this would have been impossible!
 

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Done everybody. Plenty of pictures taken. Will post how-to later or tomorrow.
 
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