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New member ... LOVE my '14 Base Model ... 30K mi.

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Satin Metallic ... black interior ... BEST CAR I HAVE EVER OWNED AND ENJOYED!!
Never thought that I would own a KIA until I saw one for the first time in May '13. I've gotten SO MANY compliments on this car, it's just amazing!!
Nothing I don't like about this car!! ... uh ... except for:
1. Weird feel in break petal sometimes when driving in wet weather, usually accompanied by a mild growling sound when breaks are applied ... been told by KIA dealership tech that this is ABS system noise ... but I'm not convinced .. water between the rotor and the break pads??
2. A bit slow out of the gate in low gear when petal is to the floor ... thought this would be better with the six-speed transmission.
3. Tried to update headlights to HID, but the HID bulb assembly has no way to anchor itself to the headlight fixture considering that the stock bulb plugs into a socket which itself is the anchor to the headlight assembly. Was told that I would have to modify the socket for the HID bulb .. but when I check with the KIA dealership, I couldn't just buy the bulb socket. The bulb socket is part of the entire wiring harness (~$800)... you can't buy the socket separately. Has anyone come across anything that would get me past this problem??

In spite of items I have mentioned above, I would buy another Cadenza in a HEARTBEAT!!
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Satin Metallic ... black interior ... BEST CAR I HAVE EVER OWNED AND ENJOYED!!
Never thought that I would own a KIA until I saw one for the first time in May '13. I've gotten SO MANY compliments on this car, it's just amazing!!
Nothing I don't like about this car!! ... uh ... except for:
1. Weird feel in break petal sometimes when driving in wet weather, usually accompanied by a mild growling sound when breaks are applied ... been told by KIA dealership tech that this is ABS system noise ... but I'm not convinced .. water between the rotor and the break pads??
2. A bit slow out of the gate in low gear when petal is to the floor ... thought this would be better with the six-speed transmission.
3. Tried to update headlights to HID, but the HID bulb assembly has no way to anchor itself to the headlight fixture considering that the stock bulb plugs into a socket which itself is the anchor to the headlight assembly. Was told that I would have to modify the socket for the HID bulb .. but when I check with the KIA dealership, I couldn't just buy the bulb socket. The bulb socket is part of the entire wiring harness (~$800)... you can't buy the socket separately. Has anyone come across anything that would get me past this problem??

In spite of items I have mentioned above, I would buy another Cadenza in a HEARTBEAT!!
Welcome! What are you trying to do with the HID? All Cadenzas come with HID bulbs if I'm not mistaken.. I myself have updated the bulbs for a more pure white look and love them. Check out OSRAM D1S Cool Blue Intense bulbs (5500K), some vendors on these forums have them.
Welcome to the Cadenza Forum.

Congrats on picking up your 14 Cadenza.

Unfortunately the dealerships are not always very savvy when it comes to these cars.

Your 14 Cadenza comes equipped with D1S HID bulbs.

We sell the OSRAM CBI bulbs on our site below. Let us know if you need any assistance.

OSRAM CBI D1S Bulbs - K5 Optima Store

David
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Your brake issue sounds like normal ABS operation to me. When ABS activates, you feel fast "thumping" on your foot and hear it.

I might be wrong, but I thought base models on early 14s were halogens. Don't know what you could do to retro fit though.
Welcome! What are you trying to do with the HID? All Cadenzas come with HID bulbs if I'm not mistaken.. I myself have updated the bulbs for a more pure white look and love them. Check out OSRAM D1S Cool Blue Intense bulbs (5500K), some vendors on these forums have them.


Halogen in the base model. If you have premium with Lux and above you get HID stock...
The only time I notice anything weird with brakes is when I slam on them and then usually only in winter when I'm sliding on ice/snow and my tires have stopped but the car hasn't. That is normal ABS though. Normal braking operation (even when wet) has never resulted in any noise...
welcome to the site....


Luxury Packs do NOT comes with HID, Articulating Headlights, AC seats, Sunroof, Power Telescoping steering wheel, rear window shade, TFT display and a few other things
Base model Cadenzas have halogen bulbs. See attached photos.
Base model Cadenzas have halogen bulbs... See attached photos (if I can get them to upload)

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Yes. That's what I've got. Halogen. That's why I wondered what to do to get HID's installed.
Yes. That's what I've got. Halogen. That's why I wondered what to do to get HID's installed.
First you'll need to figure out what size the connector for the Halogen is. I looked on the Philips Bulb finder sight (http://www.philipsautolighting.com/bulb-lookup.php?make=67&model=573&year=2014&trim=222)
The bulb appears to be H7. You then need to find an HID kit that can adapt to the H7. The Retrofit Source carries some kits that includes the bulbs, ballast, collar, etc to make it work.

I can't attest to doing this, as I have factory HID. I have no idea if the projectors for the halogen and HID are different. If different, putting in HID bulb into a Halogen projector will not be as effective as putting it into a projector designed for HID.

I do recommend using a quality kit though - being on car forums for some time now, I see so many posts about how their HID kits don't work right (don't turn on, flicker, dim, etc). Usually the issue is tied to cheap ballasts and/or bulbs.
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I've done HID's on my wife's Sonata which came with halogen bulbs. Yooshaw is right. Just get an 'hid' aftermarket kit for the bulbs you have (H7). Basically you will get what's called a ballast (x2) and HID H7 bulbs(x2). You just swap the bulbs, hook up and you're done. There is a bit more to it than that but for the most part just plug and play. If you can change a bulb comfortably, you can do it....Just get with one of the reputable vendors so you get correct info. There may be a wire to run to the battery and they all just plug into existing harnesses. A lot of times these places will have 'kits' with everything you need, bulbs, ballasts, wire harness, power wire w/ inline fuse. The kit on my wife's sonata has been running strong for 3+ years. There are color temperatures for the HID bulbs(bulbs in general I think). Our stock HID's are 4300k (somebody correct me if I"m wrong) 5000k is a standard next step which is more 'white' as opposed to a yellowish tint...then 6000k which starts to appear almost blueish to most eyes. Digest. :)
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Here's my concern... Dodge for example has a CANBUS. Do our cars have any system such as this that will cause flickering, etc if you don't get the right kit?
don't get HID's... get the new LED's from vleds.com


High Performance LED Headlights - VLEDS Bulbs for Cars & Trucks


Looks like it even comes with a socket adapter that might fit the Cadenza Base model headlight assembly!! I would still call to find out ...:)
Here's my concern... Dodge for example has a CANBUS. Do our cars have any system such as this that will cause flickering, etc if you don't get the right kit?
I'm not sure - but an easy way to test is to disconnect one halogen bulb, start the car and turn on the lights. If you get an error message on the dash somewhere, then more than likely there is a CANBUS issue that looks for the right amount of current being drawn for the headlights. I noticed the Retrofit Source has kits for H7 with and without CANBUS.

don't get HID's... get the new LED's from vleds.com


High Performance LED Headlights - VLEDS Bulbs for Cars & Trucks
I'd wait a bit before getting LED headlights. While the new LMZs from VLED produce a whopping amount of lumens, the reviews are out on how well they work focusing light on the road. It's not necessarily about lumen output, but how to get the light effectively on the road. The bulb must be "tuned" to the reflector or projector to get the best lighting results. Take a look at the dicsussion on these at HID planet: VLED's LMZ 4500 lumens?

Also, I doubt these would fit in our housings - they have active cooling with a fan that protrudes well outside where the bulb is connected - might not be able to get the dust cap back on the headlight housing.
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I'd wait a bit before getting LED headlights. While the new LMZs from VLED produce a whopping amount of lumens, the reviews are out on how well they work focusing light on the road. It's not necessarily about lumen output, but how to get the light effectively on the road. The bulb must be "tuned" to the reflector or projector to get the best lighting results. Take a look at the dicsussion on these at HID planet: VLED's LMZ 4500 lumens?

Also, I doubt these would fit in our housings - they have active cooling with a fan that protrudes well outside where the bulb is connected - might not be able to get the dust cap back on the headlight housing.
glad I decided to just keep the stock HIDS
Here's my concern... Dodge for example has a CANBUS. Do our cars have any system such as this that will cause flickering, etc if you don't get the right kit?
Not sure about the CANBUS. However, the ballasts come in several different types. When you talk to somebody that knows their stuff they'll know if you need a specific ballast. I think I did need something of the sort for the wife's sonata. If it wasn't the ballast maybe it had to do with the power wire harness that was included. Sorry it's been years...I got my stuff from XenonSupply.
h7 bulb adapter

Hey Ragg,
hope I'm not too late on this post. To add an HID kit to the Halogen version of the Cadenza you'd need an h7 bulb adapter. I purchased a few so I could get a perfect fit. This adapter is the same one used for the Veloster and also the Genesis Coupe. Hope this helps.

Thanks!!
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