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So I have the family with me coming home from dinner the other night sitting at a light on a 4 lane State highway. Some young punk is revving the piss out of his 5.0. He takes off kind of hard and I knew if I stepped on it he would too. Sure enough he floored it and he just couldn't outrun the Cadenza LOL. My wife was getting aggravated at me and wanted me to stop so I shut it off at about 75 but from 0 tot 75 I just kept pulling on him and he wasn't happy about it at all. He had headers it sounded like as the exhaust wasn't stock. It had to shock him that some big sedan was dragging his butt down the street like he had an anchor tied to him.
 

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Hey not all younger males are dipshits. Although seems like every person driving a new camaro ss or mustang 5.0 are just a-holes. Thats why i bought a 99 sl 500 classic but nice crusier.
 

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What year was the 5.0? The 2015 has close to 500 horses. I find it doubtful my Cadenza would keep up with it, especially off the line.
 

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What year was the 5.0? The 2015 has close to 500 horses. I find it doubtful my Cadenza would keep up with it, especially off the line.
This exactly, even the 6 cylinder Mustang would beat the Cadenza. This driver either did not know how to drive or he wasn't really flooring it as the OP was thinking.

I love my 420hp K900, but a new 5.0 Mustang would smoke the K900 and the Cadenza all day.
 

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Lies. The 5.0 from the last model gets smoked by mine. My wife races it all the time here and wins.
 

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Sorry bud, if you compare the specs between the 2 cars you will see that the Mustang wins by 1.5 seconds in a 0-60 and in a 1/4 mile race. The other drivers probably weren't revving to the max, or were bad racers. Not trying to take away your bragging rights, it's cool that you won :D Just know what your car matches up with so you don't get embarrassed on the streets :D
 

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I test drove a 2015 5.0 Mustang while waiting for the idiots to tell me they trashed my Cadenza. The Mustang was doggy as ****. Typical though, my 07 Mustang was the same way until I installed a CAI and had it turned by Ford Racing.
 

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Well.. Either he sucks as a racer, the elevation/humidity isn't agreeing with his tune, or his engine is shot. Dunno. Maybe he was spinning tires too long. Not sure. I'll see if I can record next time. Also raced a Hemi Charger not long ago. Was right behind him. Finished with me just shy of his rear bumper. We let off at about 80. All those were with TC on. That one made me think he was playing with me. Seems like a Hemi should leave us looking stupid.
 

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HP isn't everything...

My old 240 was pushing 610 on a good run... I was smoking cars in the mid 900s to upper 1000s...

My Cadenza is quick, not as fast as my 240 was, by any means, but its quick. It wouldn't surprise me that it would be a new 5.0 ... Keep in mind ALL the new GTs have the 5.0 badge on the side, and are really only putting down 435HP...

Get it in Automatic and have a piss-poor driver, and you will get pulled 9/10 times.

Heck, even my dad's BRZ stock eats New GTs... I hate calling them 5.0... they're not 5.0s...
 

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What are you smokin?

HP isn't everything...

My old 240 was pushing 610 on a good run... I was smoking cars in the mid 900s to upper 1000s...

My Cadenza is quick, not as fast as my 240 was, by any means, but its quick. It wouldn't surprise me that it would be a new 5.0 ... Keep in mind ALL the new GTs have the 5.0 badge on the side, and are really only putting down 435HP...

Get it in Automatic and have a piss-poor driver, and you will get pulled 9/10 times.

Heck, even my dad's BRZ stock eats New GTs... I hate calling them 5.0... they're not 5.0s...
I currently have a 2014 Cadenza. In the last two years I have owned a 2011 Mustang GT coupe and a 2011 Mustang GT convertible. The Cadenza is not is the same league performance wise or handling. I could start in 2nd gear in the Mustang and pull the cadenza by several lengths. The Mustang is a low 4 second 0-60. The Cadenza is high 5's or low 6's at best.
You must be smokin the good stuff!
 

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I currently have a 2014 Cadenza. In the last two years I have owned a 2011 Mustang GT coupe and a 2011 Mustang GT convertible. The Cadenza is not is the same league performance wise or handling. I could start in 2nd gear in the Mustang and pull the cadenza by several lengths. The Mustang is a low 4 second 0-60. The Cadenza is high 5's or low 6's at best.
You must be smokin the good stuff!
As a vendor on the forum, sometimes we have to withhold our comments for professionalism and to remain neutral. However I have to agree with this post and stress how accurate it really is.

The cadenza is not even close to as fast as a new mustang is. They are in completely different categories altogether. RWD vs FWD, V8 vs V6, suspension setup for racing vs suspension setup for luxury.

I have owned a 5.0 Mustang for over 15 years now and can tell you that it would be not even be a close race if both parties were actually trying to race.

As I previously mentioned, my 420hp RWD K900 would not even keep up with a new 5.0 Mustang with 435hp. So I don't see how the Cadenza could come close either. Nothing against the Cadenza at all, most of us could have had a Mustang if we wanted too. This is not why we got into the luxury brand with Kia though. At least not why I did.
 

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Like I said, a 2015 GT, which isn't a real 5.0, with an automatic transmission is nothing special.

I am not disputing that a true 5.0, or even a new GT w/ a 6 speed and a confident driver wont smoke the Cadenza, I am just stating what I have seen.

Here are the official specs on a 2015 "GT" w/ an automatic trans on the dyno:

SCT 2015 Mustang GT on the Dyno
When fitted with the 6-speed automatic transmission, the SCT Performance 2015 Ford Mustang GT made 361.85 horsepower and 345.39lb-ft of torque at the rear wheels. Those numbers were recorded with the Mustang running in 4th gear and when the car shifted to 5th gear, the peak torque rose to 353.02, but peak horsepower dropped to 339.43. Those are very solid figures for a stock vehicle and when you look at the advertised numbers of 435 horsepower and 400lb-ft of torque, the self-shifting Mustang is “losing” around 17% of its power between the flywheel and the road. That is a touch higher than the 15% drivetrain loss figure that is typically used for calculating a rough wheel horsepower figure, but it is also with an automatic transmission that generally eats up more power on the way to the wheels.

I've owned several mustangs, and still have my '67 Shelby, so I am no stranger to their power(sometimes lack of), and their downfalls. I do believe that a 2014/2015 Cadenza could've beaten a 2015 Mustang "GT" if the "GT" was automatic, and the driver was a novice. It could've also been an EcoBoost Mustang that a kid tacked a 5.0 badge on.

Regardless, unless I can find someone in my area with a 2015 "GT" in Automatic to race(which I am trying to arrange, but the mustang kids are mostly punks around here, and all the good friends have it in 6speed), I can neither prove, nor disprove the OP.

Remember, stay humble.
 

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I guess I must be out of the loop. As far as I know, the "GT" means the V8 5.0 motor which makes 435hp. Maybe I am missing something. The V6 model makes 361.85 hp I believe.
 

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So applying that 15% loss to the Cadenza would yield around 250 hp to the front wheels. Seems to me a trained monkey in a Mustang V8 would be able to out-drag a Cadenza on their worst day. The other driver obviously wasn't trying to race, or he was dragging an anchor from the trunk!

Like I said, a 2015 GT, which isn't a real 5.0, with an automatic transmission is nothing special.

I am not disputing that a true 5.0, or even a new GT w/ a 6 speed and a confident driver wont smoke the Cadenza, I am just stating what I have seen.

Here are the official specs on a 2015 "GT" w/ an automatic trans on the dyno:

SCT 2015 Mustang GT on the Dyno
When fitted with the 6-speed automatic transmission, the SCT Performance 2015 Ford Mustang GT made 361.85 horsepower and 345.39lb-ft of torque at the rear wheels. Those numbers were recorded with the Mustang running in 4th gear and when the car shifted to 5th gear, the peak torque rose to 353.02, but peak horsepower dropped to 339.43. Those are very solid figures for a stock vehicle and when you look at the advertised numbers of 435 horsepower and 400lb-ft of torque, the self-shifting Mustang is “losing” around 17% of its power between the flywheel and the road. That is a touch higher than the 15% drivetrain loss figure that is typically used for calculating a rough wheel horsepower figure, but it is also with an automatic transmission that generally eats up more power on the way to the wheels.

I've owned several mustangs, and still have my '67 Shelby, so I am no stranger to their power(sometimes lack of), and their downfalls. I do believe that a 2014/2015 Cadenza could've beaten a 2015 Mustang "GT" if the "GT" was automatic, and the driver was a novice. It could've also been an EcoBoost Mustang that a kid tacked a 5.0 badge on.

Regardless, unless I can find someone in my area with a 2015 "GT" in Automatic to race(which I am trying to arrange, but the mustang kids are mostly punks around here, and all the good friends have it in 6speed), I can neither prove, nor disprove the OP.

Remember, stay humble.
 

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Still smokin the good stuff

Like I said, a 2015 GT, which isn't a real 5.0, with an automatic transmission is nothing special.

I am not disputing that a true 5.0, or even a new GT w/ a 6 speed and a confident driver wont smoke the Cadenza, I am just stating what I have seen.

Here are the official specs on a 2015 "GT" w/ an automatic trans on the dyno:

SCT 2015 Mustang GT on the Dyno
When fitted with the 6-speed automatic transmission, the SCT Performance 2015 Ford Mustang GT made 361.85 horsepower and 345.39lb-ft of torque at the rear wheels. Those numbers were recorded with the Mustang running in 4th gear and when the car shifted to 5th gear, the peak torque rose to 353.02, but peak horsepower dropped to 339.43. Those are very solid figures for a stock vehicle and when you look at the advertised numbers of 435 horsepower and 400lb-ft of torque, the self-shifting Mustang is “losing” around 17% of its power between the flywheel and the road. That is a touch higher than the 15% drivetrain loss figure that is typically used for calculating a rough wheel horsepower figure, but it is also with an automatic transmission that generally eats up more power on the way to the wheels.

I've owned several mustangs, and still have my '67 Shelby, so I am no stranger to their power(sometimes lack of), and their downfalls. I do believe that a 2014/2015 Cadenza could've beaten a 2015 Mustang "GT" if the "GT" was automatic, and the driver was a novice. It could've also been an EcoBoost Mustang that a kid tacked a 5.0 badge on.

Regardless, unless I can find someone in my area with a 2015 "GT" in Automatic to race(which I am trying to arrange, but the mustang kids are mostly punks around here, and all the good friends have it in 6speed), I can neither prove, nor disprove the OP.

Remember, stay humble.
Ya! IF, IF, IF. If a frog had wings, he wouldn't bump his arss.
 

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My only comment being a Mustang GT owner.

Ford should never make a GT with automatic. Whats the point. :)
Same reason why if they made an auto Focus ST I'd preorder. Some of us like rowing our own gears because it's fun, other times it's **** convenient to be able to have an auto due to shitty traffic conditions. It's more conducive for me to have an auto because of certain places in town and for driving in rush hour as to not leave gaps or dry too aggressively.
 

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Fellas, I am 100% sure he was flooring it. He took it well past 100 mph when I shut it off. He was trying like ****. It definitely was not a 2015, it was an older model and very well could have been ragged out. Like I said, he had a fart can on it and it was loud as ****. He was giving it all it had, which wasn't much. I have owned a lot of fast cars and my brother has owned some ridiculously fast cars that he has had over 190mph on the track. I know the Cadenza is no rocket by any stretch, but it was hilarious watching this kid in the loud 5.0 trying to get around the Cadenza and he just couldn't.
 

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Seems to me a trained monkey in a Mustang V8 would be able to out-drag a Cadenza on their worst day.
^^ This....

I'll be letting the guy in the Mustang know that he is a trained monkey.. and not a very good one LOL
 
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