im with you on the driver side mirror wind noise.... but I haven't experienced any of these issues and I've got almost 26k on it now
Same Here. I had the issue with the noise from side mirrors and they had the technician install something on each door, and i haven't heard anything since. I have been hearing creaking of my sunroof intermittently still. I'm at 23k now.Bought my car in late February 2014 from a dealer in Virginia. Got a good deal and felt happy driving off the lot. Some problems started early on and some continue.
My one line statement to anyone is that the car is way too sensitive. Most buttons including the keyless phob need to pressed with exact pressure or precise location on the button. This includes the sunroof button as well as the door unlock button.
Here is my list of issues:
1. Sunroof button is terrible and way to sensitive - need to redesign. I have had one button replaced.
2. Metal Clanking noise from front end while driving slow. Dealer tightened hood but problem still continues.
3. Intermittent wind noise from drivers side mirror.
4. Bluetooth isbuggy. Software was updated November 2014. You must wait 3-4 seconds when using the hands free system.
5. Voice control is annoying. Most times my verbal requests are not recognized. Other times the system tells me I spoke to soon. Who at Kia thought adding a talk back command to a $42,000 car was smart. Literally the system yells at you if you talk too soon after hitting the hands free command button. You must wait 3-4 seconds every time you hit the hands free button. Frustrating.
6. Many Kia dealers are not ready to handle a premium car. Took mine to three dealers before I found one that could respond to my issues.
Here are the good points:
1. Gas mileage is not as bad as expected
2. Seats are very comfortable
3. Road noise is quiet most of the time
Over all I would not buy this car again. It was Ok for the price i paid but most of the "cool" features don't work well. The car drives and stops as expected.
This is a very apt and well written post. I agree with all you've said, especially that KIA should have spun off it's 'luxury' models to a separate branding. That worked immensely well for Toyo, Honda, Nissan.I've owned my Cadenza for about a year (and approx 10K miles), and have been a member here since around the same. Something I've noticed is that I think people's expectations about the Cadenza were a bit unrealistically inflated. I don't think that's their fault, Kia has marketed both the Cadenza and K900 as luxury sedans directly competing with BMW, Mercedes Benz, Cadillac, etc.
But the truth is the Cadenza is a Kia, and Kia is primarily a manufacturer of economy cars. ****, even the Cadenza and K900 are underneath it all economy cars, meant to undercut the big luxury manufacturers price-wise.
Am I saying to just accept the car for its flaws? Of course not! But I am saying that maybe it's time to realize that you didn't buy a luxury car, you bought an upscale, not-quite-luxury sedan from an economy car manufacturer who, while granting that they packed a heck of a lot of value into the Cadenza, is not a luxury car company by any stretch.
That's not to take away from any of the issues you guys are having, just adding a different perspective. In my 10K miles I love the car for what it is. Have had no problems with it except for a blown tire, for which I don't blame the dealership. I have some minor gripes here and there, but overall I'm satisfied with my purchase. Will I keep it 100K miles? Doubtful, but who knows?
Edit: In retrospect, I think it would have been wiser for Kia to do what the Japanese companies did, spin their luxury line out to its own brand that's still wholly owned and operated by Kia.
"This is a very apt and well written post. I agree with all you've said, especially that KIA should have spun off it's 'luxury' models to a separate branding. That worked immensely well for Toyo, Honda, Nissan.
It's a great, great car for the price and the features and styling beat it's competition. Some quirky issues to complain about yes, but, alot of car and alot of pleasure for decent $."
From a Parts perspective look underneath a Lexus and you'll find Toyota, Acura you'll see Honda and Infiniti, Nissan. They all use many common components, suppliers and design features. Many boxes and parts themselves carry both logos.
When I had my Bimmer, the big difference I noticed more than the component pieces was the obsessive design effort of the whole car. Every component had the appearance of some engineer obsessing over placement and design. No loose harnesses, break away points for all lines, obsessive optimization of something designed in whole. Every suspension angle seemed to have a purpose. It was almost more impressive when viewed from underneath (up on a rack). I would say the luxury differentiation is in the engineering which just takes time to evolve. I can see other's getting to this level eventually.
Not sure I agree here. I've had several co-works drive with me who were very impressed with my Cadenza. While they weren't in the market for a Cadenza, it was enough of an impression to get them into a Kia showroom and into one of the more popular Kia models (Soul and Optima).".... up Kia's image in the minds of North American consumers"
Not clear to me what Kia is doing to make this happen. Most of the public has never heard of Cadenza. Those who have would probably conclude that Cadenza (and K-900) image were nice tries that didn't quite work.
Dunk300; can you recall any further info about what the technician did to your doors to stop the wind noise? Also, which dealer/city handled the fix? Many thanks in advance!Same Here. I had the issue with the noise from side mirrors and they had the technician install something on each door, and i haven't heard anything since. I have been hearing creaking of my sunroof intermittently still. I'm at 23k now.