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Hello Everyone,

New owner of a Black on Black Cadenza with the Lux package. Well actually it is for my wife since mine is a 2012 SWP Optima SX. My handle on the optima forums is 327v20t. Definitely the nicest car I have ever owned. The only complaint I have is why the heck does it not have a ventilated passenger seat...
 

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The only complaint I have is why the heck does it not have a ventilated passenger seat...
Yes it is a mystery, isn't it? I hope the rumored upcoming SXL has the cooled passenger seat.

Welcome to the forum!

P.S. I will be shopping for property in the Tyler area next year.

John
 

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Yes it is a mystery, isn't it? I hope the rumored upcoming SXL has the cooled passenger seat.

Welcome to the forum!

P.S. I will be shopping for property in the Tyler area next year.

John
Tyler is a beautiful town, but a little on the pricey side. I guess all those roses they grow out there inflate the property value. Good luck with your search!
 

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Compared to Cali, anywhere in Texas is an improvement. My brother is moving from Albuquerque to Abilene, but Tyler is much, much, more attractive to me. I like a few more trees and a few less cacti around my home.

I hope to go out there the end of the year or early next year and snoop around. Thanks for the good wishes. Enjoy the forum!

John
 

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dont hold your breath on the L to have cooled passenger seat
Beez, Don't be so pessimistic...Now I hope they do just so you will be envious. lol

You are right, though, you never know what they will do. They might put all the right stuff on it, but it only comes in purple or some other deal breaker. In any event, there are still the models that are our right now. And they are pretty awesome.

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I read in one of the reviews that Kia International wanted to sell the "base" or Premium Cadenza for $2400.00 more which would have pushed the price with Lux/Tech to close to $45,000.00 and Kia USA pushed back because they didn't think the market would bear that big of a jump from the Optima.

The car in the commercial with the model going to her reunion is actually the SXL model. My guess is it will be the Cadenza that Kia International wanted to sell as the current Cadenza with Lux/Tech package so I'm sure it will be loaded. In the commercial you can already see the Chrome wheels and HID or LED fog lights. So John you may get that ventilated passenger seat after all.
 

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I read in one of the reviews that Kia International wanted to sell the "base" or Premium Cadenza for $2400.00 more which would have pushed the price with Lux/Tech to close to $45,000.00 and Kia USA pushed back because they didn't think the market would bear that big of a jump from the Optima.

The car in the commercial with the model going to her reunion is actually the SXL model. My guess is it will be the Cadenza that Kia International wanted to sell as the current Cadenza with Lux/Tech package so I'm sure it will be loaded. In the commercial you can already see the Chrome wheels and HID or LED fog lights. So John you may get that ventilated passenger seat after all.
Starkemann, that would be so awesome. I plan on buying a Sorento SXL at the same time, so even though I'm not even close to being wealthy, the extra 5K or so wouldn't be impossible. I plan to keep both vehicles for a long time, and the wife and I almost always go places together so the mileage on either won't be high. I really would rather wait and buy the "gonzo" than buy early, miss it, and then regret it. I hope you're right. What you're saying makes perfect sense. And then there is the Super Bowl Commercial boost that Kia likes to get.

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I think I read in one of your previous post that you have been a Kia consumer for 10 years, if that is the case you probably have a Kia right now. If you do you can use that car to get the loyalty incentive but you won't be able to get it for the Sorento and the Cadenza only one or the other. I would reccomend buying one using your current car, you don't have to trade it in to get the incentive, then use the new vehicle to get the loyalty incentive on the other new vehicle.

I know your not saying money is not an issue but I think if you can afford approximately $57,500.00 which I think is where the Quoris price point is going to be it may be worth seeing if the Quoris makes it to our shores next year.

I plan to buy one but when you get into the luxury vehicles they lose their initial value so quickly that unless you plan on keeping it for a long time like in your case the depreciation is too much for someone like me that changes cars more often to absorb. That is why I bought the Cadenza to hold me over for a year or two until I can buy a "slighty" used Quoris for the price of a new Cadenza which is the case with the Equus by Hyundai.
 

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Starkemann,
You just read my mind...I have the same plan to buy Quoris after 1-2 year for the price of Cadenza (as I see Equus 2011 for $38,000 now...originally $60,000).
Meanwhile I'll see how Cadenza will hold for 3 years...and my Optima will be 5 years old at that time...so if no major issues it worth to move on... back to luxury for affordable price...hopefully KIA will improve mpg as Equus now around 18mpg and in real world close to 16mpg

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I think I read in one of your previous post that you have been a Kia consumer for 10 years, if that is the case you probably have a Kia right now. >>>>>>>>
I know your not saying money is not an issue...
Starkemann,

Actually my last Kia ownership was when I bought my youngest daughter a new '07 Spectra which she still has. She got married last July and the car has since been registered in her name. I'm not sure if there's a loophole around that. I am a (disabled) Air Force vet, however, so I think there is a small spiff for military service. I really, really, really am not that wealthy at all to where going Quoris would be a great move. I am posturing to retire after a open heart surgery in September. Probably retiring in February 2014 or so and then making a move to Texas about a year after that. We are going to buy a new Cadenza and a new Sorento to replace a 2007 Tahoe and a 2008 Audi A5. This will be our "last Hurrah" for cars for a while. Yes, I would like to save as much as I can on the purchase(s). Sometimes, though, just networking with a number of sales people and being aware of what they are able to do to make a deal is the way to go. I realize that these sales people have kids to feed, etc., so I don't want to make a "killing" but I don't especially want them to either. Thanks for the suggestions!

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John, thank you for your service I sincerely appreciate you and all the other men and women in uniform. Sounds like you have a solid plan and the good news is that you can still get the loyalty incentive for one of your new vehicles with the purchase of the other.

As I told AirForceChief the USAA Car Buying Service will ensure you pay a fair amount for both of your vehicles. If you don't have a bank account with them you still have time to open a small checking account so you can qualify for their car buying service.

Your idea of making nice with dealerships can never hurt either. Ask them to keep you on their list to notify you of incentives that Kia Corporation may make directly to the dealership for examples, so many Cadenzas or Sorentos sold in a month. The may be willing to pass at least a part of their incentive to you for helping make their quota.

I know I'm not sharing anything with that you don't already know; I only say it for the benefit of other readers that may not know, to help them be more informed car buyers.
 

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John, btw if I read the small print during the "reunion" commercial correctly the SXL model is available in select markets now but will be available in all markets in September, which is tailored made for your plan.
 

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John, btw if I read the small print during the "reunion" commercial correctly the SXL model is available in select markets now but will be available in all markets in September, which is tailored made for your plan.
Starkemann,

Thanks for the heads-sup. Actually, I plan to switch to USAA after my retirement. I have worked for State Farm since my Air Force carreer. I early discharged after 8 years. The State Farm Bank and State Farm Employees Credit Union has buyers programs that are pretty good as well. Costo, and I assume Sam's Club have buyers coop programs. I will probably look into them all before I go for anything. Actually, I am from an Air Force Family. My dad was on B-25 (China India Burma "Bridge Busters") and C-47 ("Flyin' the Hump) crews in the Army Air Corps in WWII. My brother and I went into the 'Force together, he went 23 years as a Spec Ops C-130 Talon I (and Spectre) loadmaster and now teaches C-130 loadmaster training school for the Air Force by contract with Lockheed in New Mexico. I also have twin grandsons both in the Air Force. Wow, is that TMI or what? The military is a rewarding and proud occupation if it's in your blood to commit. I, too, give thanks for many things each day and one of those is for our troops. This country is pretty messed up, but it's the best in the world and it's party because of our military and the good things (among the crappy things) that we do for people all over the world. (soapbox over).

Thanks, man.

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John, no need to put away the soap box; I appreciate you sharing. I think it's also good that you identified other sources that are available to other readers to help ensure they get a fair deal when they purchase their next car.
 
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