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So I just went in on Saturday to get my oil changed. I noticed last time they reset my oil change counter in car that it went off early. I go for either 7 months or 7.5k miles but since I don't drive that much I just go every 7 months. I looked on the sticker and asked the girl why it was so low until in my next interval (3k or 3.5k mi don't remember). She talked to the tech and he said that if they wait for the 7mo/7.5kmi mark there isn't enough oil left on the dipstick, stating that there just wasn't enough oil. Have any of you heard this or seen anything similar? I got my car when they had the promo for 3yrs of free standard maintenance (worked out to first 5 are paid for you @ either every 7 months or every 7.5k miles). I am going to call corporate and see if they have heard it. If not, I will keep going at the factory suggested time. If they say I should bring it in when the dealer says then I will ask them to bump me up to 10 free standard maintenance since they halved my changing interval.
 

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Probably best to just manually check the oil yourself. The service interval reset function is just a miles counter; nothing more. You can re-set this yourself; it has nothing to do with actual oil level or engine performance.

The tech's opinion as to when to how often to change oil is just that; "an opinion" (hopefully a professional one). The basic factory recommendation is 7.5K miles; but the recommendation changes for "heavy duty driving" like constant stop and go traffic; dusty conditions, etc. Regardless the decision of when to change oil is really up to you, as long as you have records of regular oil changes your warranty cannot be voided (and doesn't have to be at the dealer).

If your driving is normal, I would insist on the 7.5K miles interval and just do a periodic check. Remember you are the customer; it's your car.
 

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Yes, and that is all fine and well, but if this is something they are seeing more of and actually want me to do it for good reason I'd rather be safe than sorry. No reason to go in for warranty repair if you can avoid it, even if you can point to a trail saying you did what the manual suggests. I Don't drive hard by any means which is what concerned me the most. My vehicle also has a 20yr/200K from the dealer itself. One of the stipulations to them honoring that deal is to do recommended maintenance and do it with them if possible (few more things but those are the basics). If Kia says something is different than they expected and you should service a bit sooner wouldn't you want to avoid trouble rather than pointing to what they originally said and say "nu uh, look; See!"? Lol.
 

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7 months might be too long too, regardless of the mileage. As oil pickups up dirt and buildup, even a little unburned fuel as standard blowby, it will break down the oil if left alone for too long. And you can't go by what they are saying, if in 7 months you haven't checked your oil at least 2 or 3 times you're really flirting with disaster. It's different for me in that I'm in every 3 months or so, but I still check at least once inbetween changes.
 

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My rule of thumb is 5k miles or 5 months. I typically drive about 4,200 miles in 5 months with normal driving, and so far I've been alright. It doesn't hurt anything but your wallet if you change it earlier then recommended, but if you wait too long, it can do damage. Of course you're sticking to the recommendations, so if something does blow up, you're following KIA's information, and therefore they're liable, not you, as long as you have your records in order.

Another side note: My car starts to feel sluggish around 4k miles, and then resumes its zippiness after the oil change. Try to feel it out next time, yours may do the same and at that point, I'd recommend a change. :)

Edit: I do my own oil changes, its a top-side filter and up until the coilovers, it was easy to do. There are no special seals or washers involved like some manufacturers, the only thing you lose is a record of maintenance, but I drive cars till I blow them up, so a warranty means nothing to me. :)
 

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Certainly no issue with more changes the better. New oil and filter is always a cost effective way of protecting your engine. I'm running full synthetic at 10K intervals; since I drive about 20K a year that gives me new oil at least 2X a year.

It would be wasteful to change a full synthetic more often; so if I were to go to 5K intervals I would just use standard oil. I have never had an engine oil related issue with this approach and so far at 10,500 miles my "K7" doesn't burn a drop of oil; everything I put in comes back.

Aligning with a dealer or special warranty is certainly understandable. I'm not a big fan of aftermarket warranties (from the dealer alone) especially when KIA offers a 10yr/100K power train already from the factory, but each of us should decide which plan best meets our needs.

With past vehicles (BMW, etc.) I did not have a good experience with after-market warranties. They are pure profit for the dealer and can be hard to enforce when there's a dispute as the dealer just sells them, but does not process the warranty claims. There are often many clauses and reasons for denial of payment, so buyer beware on these.

The only non-manufacture warranty I recommend is the one from CarMax. It was fair-priced and they never denied a claim for my Mercedes ML (and there were many claims with that SUV). CarMax also allows the use of any dealer or local independent shop; you don't have to take it back to them.

Here's to clean oil!
 

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Certainly no issue with more changes the better. New oil and filter is always a cost effective way of protecting your engine. I'm running full synthetic at 10K intervals; since I drive about 20K a year that gives me new oil at least 2X a year.

It would be wasteful to change a full synthetic more often; so if I were to go to 5K intervals I would just use standard oil. I have never had an engine oil related issue with this approach and so far at 10,500 miles my "K7" doesn't burn a drop of oil; everything I put in comes back.

Aligning with a dealer or special warranty is certainly understandable. I'm not a big fan of aftermarket warranties (from the dealer alone) especially when KIA offers a 10yr/100K power train already from the factory, but each of us should decide which plan best meets our needs.

With past vehicles (BMW, etc.) I did not have a good experience with after-market warranties. They are pure profit for the dealer and can be hard to enforce when there's a dispute as the dealer just sells them, but does not process the warranty claims. There are often many clauses and reasons for denial of payment, so buyer beware on these.

The only non-manufacture warranty I recommend is the one from CarMax. It was fair-priced and they never denied a claim for my Mercedes ML (and there were many claims with that SUV). CarMax also allows the use of any dealer or local independent shop; you don't have to take it back to them.

Here's to clean oil!
Luckily the extra dealer add-on warranty for the 20yr/200k is free (cars on lot are the same price roughly as other dealers w/o extra warranty). And from what I hear our oil is part synth. I can't imagine how I'd be burning oil up, as I've already stated, I baby car and am very easy on it. Not in stop and go traffic much except some rush hour traffic that isn't usually TOO bad. I honestly wouldn't put it past the dealer to be saying that to get me in there more often for more $$$. I go to the dealer for 1. their warranty (again, free) and 2. for the actual records. I also keep a paper copy of every visit in my glove compartment :)
 
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