Hello, I'm cross-shopping the 2014-2016 Kia Cadenza vs 2010-2012 Lexus ES350 and hope to get some insights from the Cadenza community. Perhaps some of you have made similar comparisons or might even have experience with both vehicles. It is not typical to compare different model years, but they are roughly similar in price this way. Any comments contrasting these specific generations are welcome.
Reasons I like the Cadenza:
- safety features like blind-spot monitoring
- newer model year / lower mileage for similar price
- value of more tech features for the price
- rear heated seats
- seemingly decent infotainment/navigation system
Reasons I like the ES350:
- reputation for reliability
Things I'm looking for:
- reliability and hassle-free ownership
- long lifetime
For reliability, lately virtually every vehicle review, reliability site, forums/owners, and even some mechanics, have been glowing about Kia's and Hyundai's quality and reliability in recent years. Some even suggest it has surpassed Toyota and Honda. But that does seem to be based on predicted reliability. So imagine the shock of seeing Kia rank terribly as measured by engine and transmission issues for trade-ins: Kia - Dashboard Light
The Cadenza does not have a ranking page, due to being too recent and insufficient data. Maybe the Optima is similar, but that's not good news: Kia Optima Reliability - Dashboard Light
Meanwhile the ES350 is excellent: Lexus ES Reliability - Dashboard Light
I don't take this as conclusive (2002 Impala is rated poorly Chevrolet Impala Reliability - Dashboard Light
, but it's been great for us--we never traded it in), nevertheless it does cause some concern.
We tend to keep vehicles until end of life (1988 Taurus for 16 years, 2002 Impala nearly 17 years and now needs to be replaced). Here in Canada the "cause of death" of our previous cars has been compromised structural integrity due to rust. Otherwise they would have been kept even longer.
So, given these criteria,
- Which would you recommend between, say, a 2011 ES350 and a 2014 Cadenza, and why?
- Which would you expect to be more reliable?
- What might be each one's life expectancy?
Thanks in advance for your input!