I have said this before but for those who encounter snow and heavy rains and don't want to have to change winter to summer, summer to winter buy tires that have the mountain logo on the side They are called all weather ( vs. all season which is really three season) . There are only a few brands that make them as of yet I went with the Finnish tire Nokian .This was my first winter with them and I had no problem handling hilly Vancouver and we got way more snow than usual. They are pricey but I swear by them. Besides snow and rain traction they are extreme;y quiet and when driving in rain the tread marks are dry which means they throw off a lot of water from the roadway. I'm not going to be cheap on when it comes to safety and the well-being of my wife and myself and or our Grandkids. I think I paid around $1600 last fall installed all in including sales tax from Kal Tires a large Canadian chain.